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2008-01-18T16:45:00.000-08:00

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2008-01-18T08:28:00.000-08:00

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don't you have better things to do than talk about mamoneh?

Yes I will put it to good use, don't worry. I am a idealist realist, if that makes any sense and equipped with capital and credibility, I am deadly.

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2008-01-18T08:25:00.000-08:00

Daveinfx,

touche, I am glad what I say doesn't completely go un-noticed. You are right I am merely describing WHAT WORKS in OSS.

I think this second generation of OSS (JBoss/MySQL) while very successful, heck I am not complaining, has failed to produce public companies. There are countless software companies that are publicly traded but only ONE (RHT) focused on OSS.

Before anyone argues that IBM and SUN and Oracle are all "OSS" companies because they use/sell/produce OSS, I want to preempt by saying I am only considering companies that do ONLY OSS and not OSS subsidized with hardware or proprietary software with on-ramp. RHT is OSS pure on the bits and the license for the distribution is effectively proprietary.

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2008-01-18T08:18:00.000-08:00

Joao,

No good titles on PS3???

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I just finished Assassin's Creed which looks AMAZING on PS3 and is one of the best games I have ever played.
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"I talk about the death of OSS as a standalone bus...

2008-01-18T06:41:00.000-08:00

"I talk about the death of OSS as a standalone business model and all you guys can talk about is my money?"

I thought the main topic was the venting (understandably human nature) on how you undersold to RH compared to MySQL's "$1Gazillion" ;-)

But seriously, I'm glad you and Matt made it big, although Matt's is bigger - ok, ok , seriously...in either case, it's more than you can reasonably spend in a lifetime. I hope you guys spend it wisely.

A while back you gave a presentation at Javapolis ...

2008-01-18T02:55:00.000-08:00

A while back you gave a presentation at Javapolis on free software business models as Grand Masta Fleury: http://www.parleys.com/display/PARLEYS/Professional%20Open%20Source

You described the various options available: leveraging free software, training & consultancy, services & support, subscriptions, dual licencing, on-ramp.

Looking through those:
* On-ramp = big guys
* Training, consultancy, services, support: Low margins, not much capital investment, difficult to scale
* Dual licencing: Build a brand, make money off volume (à la QT or MySQL). Potential IPO, but much more likely to be acquired before an IPO.
* Subscription: Required a brand, and usually lives with other activities (support), requires high R&D costs (see Red Hat).

The bottom line: Pretty much every free software model will suffer from scalability issues at some stage, and pretty much every model has you getting into the black early in your cycle.

Your capital investment (in time at least) is *before* you're a viable option for VC, usually - you need a brand to be attractive to seed capital with the free software model, because your brand is your value.

So on the contrary, I don't think you're describing the death of the OSS business model, I think you're merely describing the way free software business works. Small companies making a decent profit, or big companies leveraging free software divisions to get big enterprise customers. Outside of that, there's not much left.

Ok. You didn't get your $1B with JBoss. So why no...

2008-01-18T01:31:00.000-08:00

Ok. You didn't get your $1B with JBoss. So why not give it another shot and start another company. I bet you must be starting to feel tired of djing and playing all day :-) especially with the lack of good titles in the PS3.

And frankly, I talk about the death of OSS as a st...

2008-01-17T15:42:00.000-08:00

And frankly,

I talk about the death of OSS as a standalone business model and all you guys can talk about is my money?

sheeesh

Dear God, I don't have that kind of money.

2008-01-17T12:25:00.000-08:00

Dear God,

I don't have that kind of money.

If you have more than you need, and don't know wha...

2008-01-17T10:21:00.000-08:00

If you have more than you need, and don't know what to do with it, why not do something similar to the B&M Gates foundation?

Yeah, I was being facetious. The truth is that I d...

2008-01-17T08:42:00.000-08:00

Yeah, I was being facetious. The truth is that I don't know what to do with the money and I don't need more money to play games (btw I game on PS3) or to enjoy the freedom.

You didn't undersell. You got almost the exact sam...

2008-01-17T07:52:00.000-08:00

You didn't undersell. You got almost the exact same valuation multiple as MySQL did. You just sold before you were doing $60 - 80M. Had you waited a year longer, you would have had your billion.

But why wait? You got a boatload of cash and you're playing XBox all day. You're not hurting, Marc! :-)

From todays view you certainly undersold, yes. But...

2008-01-17T00:16:00.000-08:00

From todays view you certainly undersold, yes. But you did it long time ago and that was ok.

There is one chair left. The chair being "standal...

2008-01-16T17:54:00.000-08:00

There is one chair left. The chair being "standalone independent OSS company" (of significant size).

RHT goes and OSS will both be the biggest trend in software as having transformed the industry as well as a footnote from the financial aspect....

We just can't cut the mustard and go public on OSS business models?

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Ok. You didn't get your $1B with JBoss. So why no...

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